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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:11 pm 
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If I could tell you directly where the model is I would but until I get express permission to I can't, however there is nothing to stop me hinting etc, I'm not a tease on purpose (well maybe a little :twisted: )
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you have total premission to tell me :lol:

Seriously... so Trygon very close to the FW one hey? thats good news then.

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There isn't GW in Portugal :lol: the store kicks you to spanish GW.


Portugal. Spain.

Same difference. :wink: :twisted:

What I don't get is why you guys aren't paying more attention to Voidlord:

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Time for my "conspiracy theory"

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So that led me to believe GW does put things in plain sight. Then came yalelings and others post about scenarios. That led me to think as others Im sure moloch has one(Brimstone did not doubt it). Well I checked Moloch's website which is not updated. Well no trygon like others I am sure have checked as well. That got me thinking Moloch was in the Apoc book time to check if he had a trygon in that and sure enough he does. There are three pics of it actually one on page 25. on the inside flap in the caption "FROM BELOW" and on page 32.

Upon looking at the picture closely it has some notable differences in it. One being the head has a wider jaw and what looks like a tongue coming out of it. Could we strech that to be the mandibles that moloch was talking about? The second is the tail. Two features in particular are different on is the talon at the end is different. Two if you look at the main body right where the tail starts in front you dont see any armour plates like on the forgeworld one(I am comparing it to the my FW one in front of me. It looks different it has like dimples on the sides. Third, where the ribs end at the bottom where the tail starts there appears to be little numbs in the middle instead of reverse small armour plates on the forgeworld one. So I decided to break out my scanner and see if I cant make the image larger for a better view. Here it is just one of the three pics but the better of them imho.

http://s257.photobucket.com/albums/hh20 ... rygon1.jpg


On a timeline note I believe the plastic trygon was rumored to have come out with the apoc book so this would help solidify my theory. Maybe it was in plain sight just like the Stompa was in Apoc.

All in all it looks just like the FW Trygon with Moloch's Conversion abilities added to it. Why are we plagued by not knowing where the pic is????? Any hints from those that know? Am I just trying to hard to make something out of nothing?


Though anyone familiar with Moloch's paint schemes can tell you that beast certainly doesn't belong to moloch, it does bare some striking departures from the FW beast...

And you can rest assured that if Moloch had a Plastic Trygon, its photos would be NOWHERE on the net. *If* you received a super-secret model from GW long before the release date, would YOU be posting photos of it, thus jeopardizing any opportunity to receive similar secret models in the future? I know I wouldn't!

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With the pictire shown by voillord. There are 13 ribs on the torse compared to 12 on the forgeworld trygon, shown here top pic: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/trygon.htm

The gaps between the ribs also seem smaller, could just be the pic or thickness of the paintjob however.

Then the changes to the tail and carapace down there.

Seems a bit strange just adding an extra rib for a conversion doesn't it.


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Sooo... is that it, then? I'm not opposed to it at all. Well, apart from the fact that I've already shelled out for a Forge World Trygon =P


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I had a sneaking suspicion ever since Brimstone said it was hiding in plain sight that the thing was in the Apocalypse book. After Mr Pinks recent comment, and an in-depth comparison of the two pictures, I think I can say wth confidence there is no way in hell that Voidlords pic is a FW Trygon or a mere conversion - the number of tiny differences between the two means it would have been rather pointless for someone to have spent the time converting it that way, but they are numerous and noticeable enough to tell they are in fact different models.

I'll bet the price of a FW Trygon that I'm correct. I should have spoken up earlier, because now it doesn't seem quite as impressive given that Mr Pink has pretty much confirmed it.

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The Apoc one has a double lower jaw.... very su-weet.

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With the pictire shown by voillord. There are 13 ribs on the torse compared to 12 on the forgeworld trygon, shown here top pic: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/trygon.htm


:shock:

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Well dodn't that jus beat all.

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So are we in the majority that all the tiny details of the pic in the Apoc book lead us to believe that it is actually our Plastic Trygon?

I can not seem to find a pic of Phil Kelly's Trygon. Anyone have a link? I can't get the Canadian or Australian website to come up to see that pic.

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I don't have the Apoc book, sniffle.

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Neither do I, lol. It makes sense that it wouldn't be on the 'net, else everyone would know about it, but I'd not thought to look in the Apocalypse rulebook. They sure do put out these models in publications early. The new plastic Daemon Prince appeared somewhere, apparently the plastic Stompa's in the Apocalypse rulebook, and now the Trygon. This leads me to wonder, what other secrets could be hidden in such publications?

Anyway, how much do you guys reckon it'll cost? It could provide the basis of many a conversion like the Carnifex kit is now, providing the cost is within reasonable limits for such things.


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uUUU freaky thongue he has, me likes!
saving for a couple to join the FW.

As for ze Portugal/Spain comment I will just say... Mr_Pink you will regret it! No free samples for you. :P

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Hive Fleet Jormungand wrote:
Anyway, how much do you guys reckon it'll cost? It could provide the basis of many a conversion like the Carnifex kit is now, providing the cost is within reasonable limits for such things.


I would say that it'll probably not cost more than 70 USD. The Trygon's torso is about the same size as a fex's, maybe just a bit bigger. It'll probably be more than a fex, though because it's a gargantuan creature.

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granted it could be the angle, but I also don't see any "exaust ports" on it's back like the FW one.


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If that is the plastic trygon though and it was ready that long ago, why didn't they release it with apoc or even with apoc reloaded? I'm sure poeple would have bought it back then seems like they wasted 2years(?) worth of sales on it. Then they could have released upgrade packs to go with planet strike/nid codex/future apoc books to further increase sales this year.

It is a relief i got my money back for the trygon i sold a while ago, a few of these for a cheaper price will be great. I'm guessing it will be around the £35 range, the fw valk is around the same price as the trygon and now in plastic its at that price.


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granted it could be the angle, but I also don't see any "exaust ports" on it's back like the FW one.


They're there. They are just really short, like the FW ones.

Also, look at the tip of the tail. The spike is pointing down, and there are tendons connecting it to the tail. On the FW one, the spike of pointing kind of upwards, and without tendons.

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