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 Post subject: Silly Template Flyrant: the TEMPLANT
PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 2:09 am 
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I really want to make another Flyrant eventually, but I don't want to make another TL Dev spam one, as I dislike copy pasting everything all the time (I am not super competitive, plus I get bored running the same things).

I noticed that you can get two templates on a Tyrant with the Miasma Cannon and Thorax Swarm. I am guessing I can fire both templates due to being able to fire two weapons. Since the Miasma Cannon is strictly anti infantry, I am feeling that the shreddershards would complement it nicely due to the rend. I'd probaly give it Boneswords too due to the weapon range... so it would be around 250 math wise, the same as my Hive Commander TL Devspam one.

Anyhow, is this a solid casual idea or a bit too silly? xP

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 Post subject: Re: Silly Template Flyrant
PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 2:21 am 
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It sounds pretty rad. Give it a go and let us know how it works. =D


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 Post subject: Re: Silly Template Flyrant
PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:09 am 
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why the boneswords though? all it gains from that is the instant death on 6's, and does the tyrant really need that?

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 Post subject: Re: Silly Template Flyrant
PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:39 am 
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I forgot about the changes, doh. No swordies, just two templates that wound on 2's (argh can be hard to pick what one, either rends or more wounds on 2's against fleshy things)

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 Post subject: Re: Silly Template Flyrant
PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 6:59 am 
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You could throw in another 5 points and get a bonesword and lashwhip. Instant death on 6 is okay, but +3 initiative is great. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Silly Template Flyrant
PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 9:34 am 
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Also think of this.... if you Jinx dodge, Snap shots have no effect on template weapons!

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 Post subject: Re: Silly Template Flyrant
PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 1:20 pm 
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HiveFleetOda wrote:
Also think of this.... if you Jinx dodge, Snap shots have no effect on template weapons!

I think you can't snap fire with blasts or templates.

However I like that Template Tyrant idea. Have potential in different ranges. Rending rule is more usable I think. Wow it's taking units with any toughness and 4+ asv out of ruin with no chance to get save. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Silly Template Flyrant
PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 2:46 pm 
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Can you overwatch both templates too? That would be mean if so lol. Sounds like this guy would be fun to play. Toxin Sacs for the CC could be an option too, make this thing specialized with dealing with stupid high toughness things... super poisonous spitting stabby flyrant of dooom

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 Post subject: Re: Silly Template Flyrant
PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 3:38 pm 
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KrewL, you certainly can overwatch with both. :)
I tend to be a little bit stingy with toxin sacs on hive tyrants, figuring that if I need to wound high toughness I can chose to smash. Re-rolls to anything T6 or less is nice, but Old Adversary is only a little bit more.

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 Post subject: Re: Silly Template Flyrant
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I totally intend to run a Flyrant with LW/BS and was wondering what to give aside from the Thorax template. Pointing out the Bio-Artefact is awesome! And giving the Flyrant Onslaught to boot would be SWEET!


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 Post subject: Re: Silly Template Flyrant
PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:15 pm 
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This sounds like a competitive build. If your going to assault with your flyrant then you Want to do as much shooty damage pre charge. Done template all 2+ wounds (some rending). And then smashing with a S7 I8 6A +tail. Brutal.

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 Post subject: Re: Silly Template Flyrant
PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 7:26 pm 
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lol my poor rusty memory, I forgot about the smashies rule too, doh! I need to play more games, darned work...

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 Post subject: Re: Silly Template Flyrant
PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 9:01 pm 
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I just put up a list utilizing him on my shock cannon post

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 Post subject: Re: Silly Template Flyrant
PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:26 pm 
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I think MCs can only overwatch one weapon. They're only permitted to shoot a second one "in the shooting phase".

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 Post subject: Re: Silly Template Flyrant
PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 3:36 am 
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well, considering overwatch is firing 'as a normal shooting attack' (which means you check los, range, then fire any weapons you're allowed to fire up to the max amount allowed), except all shots are snapshots, and template weapons have a different rule (wall of flame), you should be able to fire both weapons.

Dual pistol wielders may fire both weapons as well - and I think this is even mentioned in cypher's dataslate as a precedent.

Note that this makes assaulting an adepta sororitas seraphim squad with 2x dual handflamers and saint celestine a painful proposition. 4d3 s3 ap6 and 1d3 s5 ap4 hits... :S

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